Thursday, 5 January 2017

THE NEPHILIM, AND THE REAL STORY OF THE FALLEN ANGELS, DEMONS, AND THE WATCHERS!

ENOCH AND THE WATCHERS - THE "REAL" STORY OF ANGELS AND DEMONS! 

Azazel leading the rebel angels

BE AWARE FOR THE NEPHILIM ARE BACK WITH US IN THE WORLD TODAY!
EVERY VISIBLE THING IN THE WORLD IS PUT UNDER THE CHARGE OF AN ANGEL (ST.AUGUSTINE). 
The Vatican has banned the veneration of those FALLEN ANGELS who do not appear in the AUTHORISED texts of the Bible. This was an attempt to counter the influence of unnamed New Age groups who were allegedly recruiting new members within the Roman Catholic Church. In future, prayers are only to be directed to the three archangels Michael, Gabriel and Raphael who are mentioned in the Bible (total RC rubbbish of course)! According to the apocryphal and banned BOOK OF ENOCH these were the three angelic beings responsible for binding the wicked fallen angels or WATCHERS who had transgressed God’s law. The early Church had excluded the book, attributed to the O.T. prophet and patriarch Enoch, from the authorised version of the Bible because it described these fallen angels and their activities (why was it omitted)?
WHO ARE THE WATCHERS OR FALLEN ANGELS and why was the early Church and the modern Vatican so concerned about them? AND WHY DOES THE Protestant and Evangelical Church REMAIN TOTALLY SILENT ON THIS INTERESTING BUT VERY CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT? Lots of questions, very few answers!
Genesis 6:1-4 says: “When men began to multiply on the face of the Earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and took them wives of all which they chose.” Traditionally the Ben Eloha or "sons of God" numbered several hundred and they descended to Earth on Mount Harmon. Significantly this was a sacred place to both the Canaanites and the Hebrews who invaded their land. In later times shrines to the gods Baal, Zeus, Helios and Pan and the goddess Astarte were built on its slopes.
These Ben Elohim or ‘fallen angels’ were also known as the WATCHERS, the Grigori and the Irin. In Jewish mythology the Grigori were originally a superior order of angels who dwelt in the highest heaven with God and resembled human beings in their appearance. The title ‘Watcher’ simply means ‘one who watches’, ‘those who watch’, ‘those who are awake’ or ‘those who do not sleep’. These titles reflect the unique relationship between the Watchers and the human race since ancient times.
In the LUCIFERIAN legend and tradition, they were a special elite order of angelic beings created by God to be earthly shepherds of the first primitive humans. It was their task to observe and watch over the emerging human species and report back on their progress. However they were confined by the divine prime directive not to interfere in human evolution. Unfortunately they decided to ignore God’s command and defy his orders and become teachers to the human race, with unfortunate repercussions for both themselves and humanity.
Most of the information we have about the Watchers and their activities comes from the apocryphal BOOK OF ENOCH.  In the orthodox Bible the prophet Enoch is a fascinating figure. In Genesis 5:1-24 we read of him as the son of Jared, and the father of Methuselah, a descendant of Cain (the first murderer), and he lived for 365 years before God took him away in an early form of the RAPTURE (verse 24, and also Heb 11:5).

Enoch is accredited as having written THREE APOCRYPHAL  books in Jewish tradition, but none of them have been deemed "under the inspiration of God" and deserving of a place in the Canon of Scripture, or the Bible as we have it today.  Enoch appears in the line below, which also corresponds with Luke 3: 34-38.
  
Adam to Seth (130 years);  Seth to Enos (105 yrs);  Enos to Cainan (90 yrs);  Cainan to Mahalaleel (70 yrs);  Mahalaleel to Jared (65 yrs);  Jared to Enoch (162 yrs);  Enoch to Methuselah (65 yrs); TOTAL TO DATE = 687 yrs;  Methuselah to Lamech (187 yrs);  Lamech to Noah (182 yrs);  Noah to the Flood (600 years); TOTAL = 1656 years.
      
We need to remember that something like 1948 years (very interesting number that regarding the re-birth of ISRAEL) are crammed into the first eleven chapters of Genesis from Adam to Abraham, which is very NEARLY HALF of the entire Old Testament!  It is during the lifetime of Enoch that Watchers either arrive on the earth or incarnate themselves in human bodies. This would be around 687 BC (as above), for the flood as prophesied by his son Methuselah came around 1656 BC (as above). Therefore the period we are discussing is NOT JUST A FEW SHORT YEARS, as some think, but rather several generations and many years, such is the grace and patience of the Lord.
In the apocryphal BOOK OF JUBILEE, allegedly dictated by “an angel of the Lord” to Moses on Mount Sinai when he also received the Ten Commandments, it says that Enoch was “the first among men that are born on Earth who learned writing, knowledge and wisdom.” It says that Enoch wrote down “the signs of Heaven” (the zodiac signs) according to their months in a book. This was so human beings would know the seasons of the years in relation to the order of the months and their respective stellar and planetary influences. The indication is that Enoch received this information from extraterrestrial angelic sources, i.e. the WATCHERS, and therefore he was a cultural exemplar.

THE FALLEN ANGELS INSTRUCT HUMANITY 


Two hundred of the ‘fallen angels’ descended from the heavenly realm on to the summit of  MOUNT HERMON and they were so smitten by the beauty of human women that, using their new material bodies, they had sex with them. This further incurred Yahweh’s wrath and, according to the Bible, the consequence of this sexual abomination between the Fallen Ones and mortals led to the creation of half-angelic, half-human offspring (Genesis 6:4).
These children were called the NEPHILIM and they were the GIANT RACE that once inhabited the earth (as in the graphic opposite). The flood was to annihilate this Satanic race, but the Bible goes on to say that there were more Nephilim AFTER THIS DESTRUCTION (Gen 6:4). The flood killed the first irruption, but the "god of this world" somehow mingled his seed again with the seed of the human race (just like Jesus warned with the wheat and the tares), leading to a second invasion of this alien race! WE NEED TO TAKE NOTICE OF THIS AND WILL COME BACK TO IT LATER! 

The fallen angels taught their wives and children a variety of new technological skills, magical knowledge and occult wisdom. This suggests that psychic abilities and magical powers were originally an ancient inheritance from the angelic realm given to early humans. In the Luciferian tradition this is known in spiritual and metaphorical terms as the "WITCH BLOOD", or "ELVEN BLOOD", that is possessed by witches and wizards.

In the Luciferian tradition Lumiel is promised redemption and the restoration of his former status in the cosmic plan. This can only come to pass when the human race spiritually evolves. So it is to the benefit of Lumiel and his teaching angels to help us achieve that end. The relationship between humanity and the leader of the Fallen Ones is therefore very much a two-way friendly affair, as they need each other to live peacefully.  
In the Book of Enoch it says that the leader of the fallen angels was called AZAZEL, and he is often identified with LUCIFER (the Lightbringer) or Lumiel (‘the light of God’). He taught men to forge swords and make shields and breastplates (body armour). Azazel also taught them metallurgy and how to mine from the earth and use different metals. To the women he taught the art of making bracelets, ornaments, rings and necklaces from precious metals and stones. He also showed them how to ‘beautify their eyelids’ with kohl and the use of cosmetic tricks to attract and seduce the opposite sex. From these practices ENOCH  states there came much ‘godlessness’ and men and women committed fornication, were led astray and became corrupt in their ways.
This was the basis for the early Church condemning the fallen angels for teaching women to make necklaces from pieces of gold and bracelets for their arms. The great Apostle Paul said that women should cover their head in the synagogue (1 Corinthians: 11: 5-6). This was because the fallen angels were supposed to be attracted to human females with long flowing hair. The custom of women covering their hair in churches is still found in Roman Catholicism and also in the customs of Islam.
The fallen angel SHEMYAZA, another form of Azazel, is said by Enoch to have taught humans the use of root cuttings and the magical art of enchantment; the fallen angel ARMAROS taught the resolving (banishing) of enchantments; BARAQIJAL taught astrology; KOKABIEL, the knowledge of the constellations (astronomy); CHAZAQIEL, the knowledge of the clouds and the sky (weather lore and divination);  SHAMSIEL, the signs of the sun (the solar mysteries); SARIEL the courses of the moon (the lunar cycles used in horticulture and agriculture and the esoteric lunar mysteries); PENEMUEL instructed humans in the art of writing and reading; and KASHDEJAN taught the diagnosis and healing of diseases and the science of medicine.
It is obvious from these descriptions of the teaching abilities of the WATCHERS that they were cultural exemplars and the bringers of civilisation to the early human race. However, in orthodox Judeo-Christian religious texts they are misrepresented as evil corrupters of humanity. Perhaps they started off with good intentions, but had their minds diverted by the sexual beauty and chemistry of human women?
Some idea of the original exalted status and real nature of the ‘sons of God’ and ‘the angels of the Lord’ can be found hidden in the ancient annals of angelic lore. For instance, Kokabiel is described as “a great angelic prince who rules over the stars.” In the Sibylline Oracles, Araqiel is one of the fallen angels who guides the souls of the dead to judgement in the underworld.
Shamsiel, possible originally a Babylonian sun god, was called “the prince of Paradise” because he was one of the guardian angels who watched over the gates to Eden. In this role he took Moses to see the heavenly garden and he also watched over the treasures of King David and his son Solomon the Wise. This reference may be to spiritual treasures rather than physical gold and jewels. In the JewishZohar he is named as the chief aide-de-camp to the mighty Archangel Uriel and bore his standard into battle.
Sariel was an angel associated with fertility of the earth and the spring equinox (northern hemisphere) in March. He governed the martial zodiac sign of Aries the Ram and was invoked for protection against the malefic power of the Evil Eye.

AZAZEL  -  LUCIFER  -  LUMIEL 

Azazel, the leader of the Watchers, as mentioned before, was identified with Lucifer or Lumiel. In the Quran it is said that Lucifer-Lumiel (Iblis) rebelled against Allah because he was told to bow down and worship the clay-born “man of earth” Adam and refused. He was forced to fight a battle in Heaven with the Archangel Michael and his Army of the Lord. As a result Lumiel and his rebel angels were cast out of Heaven and fell down to Earth. Here Lumiel became the “Lord of the World” and in Christian mythology he was identified with the bogeyman Satan. However, in the Luciferian tradition, Lumiel or Lumial is not an evil satanic figure luring humankind into temptation and acts of evil as the Church represents him. He is “the angel of God [who] rebelled against the static, established cosmic order and set in motion the forces of change and evolution".


It is possible that Lumiel may have originated in Canaan as Shahar, the god of the morning star (Venus). Lumiel is described as the child of the goddess Asherah, and there is archaeological evidence from the Middle East that the Hebrews adopted her worship when they settled in Canaan and practised it alongside reverence of the tribal storm god Yahweh. THE OLD TESTAMENT has several references to the continued worship of Asherah as "THE QUEEN OF HEAVEN" by the allegedly monotheistic Hebrews. This took place at shrines in sacred groves on hills where they made offerings of cakes and incense to the goddess. In Canaanite mythology, Shahar, as the Lord of the Morning Star, was cast down from heaven for defying the high god El in the form of a lightning bolt. In that form he fertilised Mother Earth with his divine phallic force.
Azazel is represented as a metal-smith and a fire-working sorcerer or magician. He has also been compared to the biblical first smith Tubal-Cain, a descendant of the half-human, half-angelic “first murderer” Cain. The actual name Azazel has variously been translated as ‘god of victory’, ‘the strength of God’, ‘the strong god’ and even ‘the goat god’. In the apocryphal APOCALYPSE OF ABRAHAM,he is called “the lord of heathens” suggesting he was originally a pagan god. He has also been identified with the serpent in the Garden of Eden, who seduced the first woman and “Mother of All Living,” Eve. In a Persian text known as the Urm al-Khibab or The Primordial Book, dating from the 8th century CE, the angel Azazil or Azazel is said to have refused to acknowledge the superiority of Adam over the angels. As a result Allah expelled him and his rebel angels from the heavenly realm to live on Earth. More generally in Islamic lore Azazel or Azrael is the angel of death and he acts as a guide for the souls of the dead.


A RACE BETWEEN GOD, ANGELS AND MEN! 


As we have seen, the end result of the illicit relationships between the  WATCHERS and “the daughters of men” was, according to Judeo-Christian tradition in the Bible, the spawning of a monstrous race of warlike, blood-drinking cannibalistic giants called the NEPHILIM. Genesis 6:4 less dramatically describes them as “the mighty men of old, men of renown.” At first they were fed manna by Yahweh to stop them consuming human flesh, but they rejected it. They slaughtered animals for food instead and then began to hunt down and eat human prey.
It has been speculated that this legend is based on the culinary habits of the nomadic desert herdsmen in the Middle East, who were voracious meat-eaters. In the biblical account of Cain and Abel, the dispute between the two brothers that led to the first murder is over the nature of the offerings made to Yahweh.  Abel, a “keeper of sheep” or nomadic herdsman offered the “firstlings of the flock…” and Cain, who was “a tiller of the ground” or farmer-gardener offered “the fruit of the ground” (Genesis 4:2-4). Abel’s burnt offerings of animal flesh and blood were pleasing to Yahweh, but he rejected the vegetables, cereal and fruit offered by his brother. 
The idea of semi-divine heroes was born from the ancient accounts of unions between the Gods and mortals. The poet and writer Pindor (518-438 BCE) described the heroes of the past as “a race between Gods, angels and men.” In the Dead Sea Scrolls the terrible human-eating NEPHILIM are in fact described as the guardians of arcane knowledge who “knew all the mysteries of nature and science.” There are also oblique references to the breeding techniques they taught that suggest they instructed early humans in the domestication and rearing of animals.
Additional references also hint at experiments that led to the creation of ‘monsters’ by the interbreeding of animals with different and unrelated species. In modern theosophical occultism there are legends about the lost continent of Atlantis that claim its scientists bred half-human, half-animal hybrids as a slave race. In our own time scientists are experimenting with genetic research and animal cloning experiments. They could well produce the NEPHILIM again!  It is widely rumoured that in China there have recently been attempts to create a new half-human, half-animal hybrid species. These unnatural experiments led to the cataclysmic disaster that destroyed Atlantis. This also relates to the destruction of the NEPHILIM and the early human race in the Biblical Flood. Records of such an event can also be found in the mythology of ancient peoples worldwide and especially among the Babylonians in the Middle East. In fact, it is claimed that the story of Noah and the Flood in the Old Testament originated in Babylonian and Sumerian myths.

4000 BC AND THE END OF THE ICE AGE


It is known that there seems to have been a cultural explosion that transformed early humankind at some point in time. At the end of the last Ice Age the first signs of agriculture appeared in the Middle East with a shift from a nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyle to that of settled farming.  At the same time dogs, goats and sheep were also domesticated. Within a relatively short space of time, copper and lead smelting was being practised in Anatolia (modern Turkey) and archaeologists believe this process was first discovered in Kurdistan, along with weaving and pottery making. The ancient Kurdish culture was also the first to develop a script and was one of the earliest literate societies in the Middle East.
The Kurds claim to be the descendants of the ‘Children of the Djinn’ (spirits), the offspring of a mating between the djinns and mortal women. In some parts of Kurdistan, especially among the sect of Yezedis, who worship the Peacock Angel (Azazel, the leader of the fallen angels), can be found tall, fair-haired people with blue eyes. Although anthropologists believe they may be of ancient European ancestry, popular folk belief among the Kurds says they are descendants of the ‘Children of the Djinn’, who in ancient times brought civilisation to early humankind.
In general the ancient Middle East was known as ‘the cradle of civilisation’ with the earliest city-states being founded in the Mesopotamian area (modern Iraq and Iran). The early indigenous people of the region, the Sumerians and Akkadians, developed the first written language, studied astronomy and created libraries. The Babylonians and Assyrians followed them and in the mythology of all these races are stories of how the Gods descended to Earth and taught them the arts of civilisation.
In the BOOK OF ENOCH it says that when Yahweh saw the lawlessness, chaos, corruption and sexual immorality that had been caused by the interaction of the WATCHERS and humans he decided to intervene through the agency of the archangels Michael, Raphael, Gabriel and Uriel. He commanded Raphael to bind Azazel hand and foot like a sacrificial goat and cast him into a deep ravine in the desert. Gabriel was sent on a divine mission to destroy “the bastards and reprobates” and “the children of the Watchers amongst men.” The Archangel Michael, the commander of the Army of God, was sent to arrest Shemyaza and bind him “under the earth” until Judgement Day. 
The BOOK OF JUBILEE says that the archangels bound the Watchers “in the depths of the earth” and in Judaic tradition they are imprisoned in a mysterious “second Heaven.” However, it is also said that some of these “mighty warriors” have a special place reserved for them in Sheol, the Jewish underworld. There they are said to lie in state “with shield and spear intact.” More probably they are " the angels who kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (Jude 1:6, see also 2 Peter 2:4,5).

Christian O’Brien has suggested there is a connection between the biblical Watchers and the semi-divine, semi-mythical Tuatha De Danann (Children of the goddess Dana). This race of ancient magicians descended to Earth on the sacred hill of Tara in prehistoric Ireland. With the coming of Christianity, the Tuatha De Danann was banished into the ‘hollow hills’ and became the Sidhe (Shee) or ‘Shining Ones’, the elves and fairies of Irish folklore. There has always been a strong belief among the peasantry in Ireland that the Good People or fairies were originally the fallen angels who sided with Lucifer in the Battle of Heaven.

NO MYTHS HERE, JUST THE FACTS OF THE FALLEN ANGELS!


What is the significance behind the account of the fallen angels, the expulsion of Lucifer from Heaven and the Fall of Man as represented by the Garden of Eden saga? In the Bible Lucifer is often depicted in the reptilian form of a dragon or serpent and in the West this creature is symbolic of evil and the powers of chaos. Babylonian, Hittite, Canaanite, Iranian, Egyptian, Greek and Norse myths all describe in various forms a struggle between a supreme father-god, representing cosmic order and harmony, and a younger rebellious god who challenges and tries to overthrow divine authority. 
Symbolically, Lucifer or Lumiel is known as the Lord of Light as he is the first-born of creation. He represents the active cosmic energy of the universe and has been identified with fire, light, phallic power, independent thought, consciousness, progress, liberty and independence. 
In Western mythologies this creature is commonly represented as a symbol of the powers of darkness, chaos and evil. In contrast, in Eastern mythology the dragon is a good omen representing fertility and good fortune (another lie from SATAN).  Lumiel-Lucifer is often identified with the serpent in the Edenic myth described in Genesis. In the Luciferian tradition, the biblical serpent is regarded as the personification of knowledge, wisdom and enlightenment who liberated the first humans from the spiritual ignorance imposed on them by Yahweh. The serpent is seen as the symbol of an outside liberating force that quite literally opened the eyes of Adam and Eve to the reality of the created universe and the wonders of the material world (Satan at work again). 
The snake, serpent or dragon is an ancient mythical and archetypal image of the solar phallic power or life force that is associated with Lucifer and the explosion of light following the divine celestial event that created the universe. When the first man and woman ate the forbidden fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden of Eden, they became consciously aware. Their first realisation was that their physical ‘cloaks of flesh’ were naked. They rushed to cover their genitals as they had become aware of the so-called ‘serpent power’ or KUNDALINI (also a modern phenomena today), that can be raised by sexual intercourse and non-reproductive sex acts. They also ate from the Tree of Life which initiated the cycle of birth, life, death and rebirth and of human souls incarnating in physical form.
These ancient accounts, both Biblical and apocryphal, are closely linked with the fall of Lucifer from Heaven and the diminishing of his former status as the first-born of creation to become the Lord of the World. It was the deliberate intervention of Lucifer and the fallen angels in human governance, which ultimately lead to their fall from heavenly grace. The Watchers wanted to help the progress of their human flock at first. However, the arousal of PRIDE in Lucifer, and his refusal to recognise the creation of human beings as part of God's plan for the earth and the heaven, meant that the Fall from heavenly grace was inevitable. However, he is far from finished and is still wreaking havoc upon the earth, and will continue to do so until he is thrown into the lake of fire (Rev 20: 10). 

THE BIBLE WARNS THAT ALTHOUGH THE  NEPHILIM  WERE DESTROYED BY THE FLOOD IN NOAH'S TIME, THERE WAS A FURTHER IRRUPTION OF THEM AFTERWARDS (see Gen 6 again) RESULTING IN MORE GIANTS AND SATANIC BEINGS ON EARTH!

WE ARE ALSO TO EXPECT THIS TYPE OF DEVILISH ACTIVITY IN THESE LAST DAYS, "FOR AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH.....AND LOT.....SO SHALL IT BE WHEN THE SON OF MAN RETURNS TO EARTH"

WE ARE NOT ALONE! 
LOOK OUT! 
DO NOT BE DECEIVED!

 THE NEPHILM ARE BACK ON EARTH! THE SEED OF SATAN!

THEY LOOK LIKE WHEAT BUT SOME ARE IN FACT SATANIC TARES! YOU MAY HAVE PASSED ONE TODAY! REMEMBER SATAN CAN MASQUERADE AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT, AS WELL AS A SERPENT, OR EVEN A HUMAN BEING!


YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! THE END TIMES ARE HERE!!THE NEPHILIM ARE BACK AND ARE WITH US AGAIN! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! JESUS IS COMING BACK SOON! ARE YOU RIGHT WITH HIM? TODAY IS THE DAY OF SALVATION! BE VIGILANT FOR SATAN "the god of this world"IS FULL OF DECEPTION AND LIES, AND IS WAITING IF YOU ARE NOT CLOTHED IN THE SHED AND CLEANSING BLOOD OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. SO BE ALERT, FOR YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!

GENESIS SIX - ANGELS OR NOT?? MORE ON THE DEMONIC NEPHILIM!!

Early commentaries on Genesis 6: Angels or not? – interactive chart

I ran across a chart in Robert I. Bradshaw's Creationism & the Early Church who in turn had cited as sources his own Jude, 2 Peter (WBC, Vol. 50., Waco: Texas, 1983 AD, 51) and Robert C. Newman's The Ancient Exegesis of Genesis 6:2, 4 (GTJ, Vol. 5.1, 1984 AD: 13-36).
I have added some references to it, made some corrections and added footnotes.
It notes which early commentators, both Jewish and Christian, held to the Angel view of the Genesis 6 affair, as I term it, and which held to other views which mostly consist of the Sethite view or misc. (such as Noblemen view, Judges view, etc.).
The date range is from 250 BC to the 5th century AD.
Out of 40 texts the results are:
25: Angel view
10: Misc. views
5: uncertain
Also, some would add Jude and Peter to the list on Angels view holders as per Jude 6-7 and 2 Peter 2:4-6.
Consider this a work in progress.
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AuthorCitationDate estimationAngelNon-Angel
VariousLXX/Septuagint250 BCX
Unknown1 Enoch 6-19; 86-88; 106: 13-15, 17165-64 BCX
UnknownJubilees 4:15, 22; 5:1150 BCX
Unknown
Damascus Document aka Fragments Of A Zadokite Work, 2:16-191
100 BC**
Philo of AlexandriaGiants 6-720 BC-50 ADX
JosephusAntiquities, Book 1.3.137-100X
Pseudo-PhiloBiblical Antiquities 3:1-270X
Clement of RomeRecognitions, Book 1 Chapter 29Died 99X
UnknownTestaments of the Twelve Patriarchs: Naphtali 3:4-5 & Reuben 5:6-770-200X
Justin Martyr1 Apology 5; 2 Apology100-165X
Irenaeus of LyonsDemonstration 18; Heresies 16.2115-202X
Tatian the AssyrianAddress to the Greeks, chap 7120-180****
Rabbi AkibaGreek translation of Gen 6130X
Rabbi Simean ben YohaiMidrash Genesis Rabbah 26:5-7130-160X
Rabbi Jose - Babylonian TalmudSanhedrin 108a130-160X
Clement of AlexandriaMiscellanies 5.1.10150-215X
BardesanThe Book of the Laws of Divers Countries154-222X
TertullianIdolatry 9; Veiling 7; Women, 1.2160-225X
Julius AfricanusChronology, Fragment 2160-240X
Origen AdamantiusContra Celsus, Book V, section LV182-254******
UnknownTargum Neofiti aka Neophyti1st-4th cent.********
LactantiusDivine Institutes 2.15240-320X
CommodianusInstructions250X
Eusebius of CaesareaPreparation, 5.5263-339X
UnknownGenesis Apocryphon 2:1Late 1st cent.X
Unknown2 Baruch 56:10-14Late 1st cent.X
Unknown2 Enoch, Chap 18Late 1st cent.X
AthenagorasA Plea for the Christians, 242nd cent.X
UnknownThe Clementine Homilies, Homily VIII, chaps XIII, XV, XVI300-320X
UnknownPseudo-Clementine Literature, Book I300-320X
UnknownTargum Onqelos aka Onkelos300-400X
Ephrem the SyrianCommentary on Genesis 6306-373X
Ambrose of MilanNoah and the Ark 4.8340-397X
Augustine of HippoCity of God, Book XV354-430**********
John CassianConference VIII, chap XXI360X
Sulpicius SeverusHistory, 1.2363-420X
John ChrysostomHomily on Genesis, 22.6-8374-407X
SymmachusGreek translation of Gen 6Late 2nd cent.X
Babylonian TalmudYoma 67b500X
UnknownTargum of Jonathan ben Uzziel aka Pseudo-Jonathan 6:1-2, 45th cent.X
Footnotes:
* Tatian the Assyrian: Mentions Angel/demon copulation in general and not in direct reference to the Genesis 6 affair.
** Origen Adamantius: “whatever may be the meaning of the ‘sons of God desiring to possess the daughters of men,’ it will not at all contribute to prove that Jesus was not the only one who visited mankind as an angel” Origen did ascribed corporality to Angels.
*** Targum Neofiti aka Neophyti: Has Nephilim as “warriors” but that “these are the warriors that (were there) from the beginning of the world, warriors of wondrous renown.” The 16th cent. MS has a note that reads “There were warriors dwelling on earth in those days, and also afterwards, after the sons of the angels had joined (in wedlock) the daughters of the sons.”
**** Augustine of Hippo: Chap 5 he claims that the Angel view is “suggested,” chap 22 he states that “may suppose it,” chap 23 “the sons of God, who are also called angels of God…But that those angels were not angels in the sense of not being men, as some suppose…by the Spirit of God they had been made angels of God, and sons of God; but declining towards lower things, they are called men.”

WHO ARE THE NEPHILIM?? MORE HERE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER!!

Nephilim in Peter Pett Commentary on the Bible for Jude

From Peter Pett’s (1610-1672 AD) Commentary on the Bible:
‘And angels who kept not their own original status (or ‘principle rank’), but left their proper habitation, he has kept in everlasting bonds under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.’
The second incident involves the angels who sinned in the times of Noah. ‘The sons of God (or ‘of the elohim’) saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and took for themselves wives of whom they chose.’ In other words those angels left their proper sphere and sought to possess mankind. They deserted their true habitation and environment. They left behind the heavenlies and their heavenly status and dignity, and came to earth to mingle with men. And this intermingling of the heavenly with the earthly was against God’s ordinance. They were blatantly disobeying God.
‘Who kept not their own ‘principle rank’ (or ‘original status and position’).’ The word originally meant, ‘beginning, commencement’. And then it came to mean what surpasses other things, that which is ‘first’ in point of rank and honour, or pre-eminence. That which has priority and precedence, due to superiority, e.g. a princedom. Here it refers to the rank, dignity and status which the angels had had in heaven.
(We need not see Genesis 6:1-2 as necessarily indicating that angels actually cohabited with women. The way in which they ‘took them as wives’ was probably by demon intercourse and by demon possession of the men with whom the women cohabited. It was this wholesale invasion of mankind by demons, which were gladly received by men and women, that caused God to determine to destroy mankind at that time. It was not just ‘ordinary’ sin. It was sin of the deepest kind. Mankind’s current and growing obsession with the occult will no doubt again produce a similar judgement).
The reason for specifying that the Angels “sinned in the times of Noah” is that 2 Peter 2 mirrors this Jude text yet, add that reference.
The parenthetical note is interesting as not only would one naturally consider both Jude and 2 Peter 2 to be referring to the Genesis 6 affair but Pett’s reference to “those angels left their proper sphere and sought to possess mankind…came to earth to mingle with men…intermingling of the heavenly with the earthly” would make it seem that he was headed in that direction and taking the Angel view with him.
It seems that by “sought to possess mankind” he meant just that as he very freely (freedom of imagination) speculates that this had to do with demon possessed men with whom the women cohabited—but why not demon possessed women with whom the men cohabited or a mixture of demon possessed men and women who cohabited with each other. They text specifies only male sons of God with only female daughters of men.
Unlike any other view (Sethites, Judges, Nobles, Tyrants, etc.), the Angel makes sense of this as biblically Angels look like human males.
Peter Pett further notes:
This sin of intermingling the heavenly and the earthly (although in reverse order) was precisely what these godless people that Jude was talking about were trying to do. They were trying to mix the earthly with the heavenly and leave their proper sphere by renouncing the body of flesh as irredeemable, and seeking to attain life as spirit beings by occult means. They were like many sects, who try to reach out into the spirit world. Furthermore we indulge in similar sins today when we seek to become involved with the occult. And the danger with some modern literature is that it can make such things appear harmless. Indeed some Christians see such literature as Satan’s way of preparing the way for the future. And what happened to the angels who behaved in this way? He kept them in everlasting bonds under darkness to await their final judgment. And the same will apply to these godless men. They too will face the final Judgment.
Well, I do not see how Jude is even hinting at “occult means” since Jude is refers to “certain men crept in unawares…ungodly men” to whom 2 Peter 2 refers to as “false prophets…false teachers” who were teaching “damnable heresies.”
Pett then offers some “Note On The Angels Who Sinned”:
Some cavil [make petty or unnecessary objections] at this interpretation and see this as referring to angels who sinned before the creation of man. But there is in fact no Scriptural evidence that any angels, apart from Satan, did fall before the creation of man. No indication of date is ever given to the few accounts of when the angels fell.
On the other hand we do have grounds in the very literature which Jude will later cite (the book of Enoch), for the idea that the first angelic fall took place in the days of Noah. Thus in the Book of Enoch (1 Enoch) we have the following description of the fall of these angels, who are called the Watchers, because they were watching over mankind:
“And it came about, when the children of men had multiplied, that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children (6:1-3) --- And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in to them and to defile themselves with them (7:1). ---And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness (10:4) --- bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgment and of their consummation, till the judgment that is for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: and to the torment and the prison in which they will be confined for ever. And whoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all generations. And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because they have wronged mankind. (10:12-15) --- And then will the whole earth be tilled in righteousness, and will all be planted with trees and be full of blessing (10:18-19) --- . 'Enoch, you scribe of righteousness, go, declare to the Watchers of the heaven who have left the high heaven, the holy eternal place, and have defiled themselves with women, and have done as the children of earth do, and have taken to themselves wives: "You have wrought great destruction on the earth, and you will have no peace nor forgiveness of sin, and inasmuch as they delight themselves in their children, the murder of their beloved ones shall they see, and over the destruction of their children shall they lament, and will make supplication unto eternity, but mercy and peace shall you not attain.” (12:4-6).
Agreed, “there is in fact no Scriptural evidence that any angels…did fall before the creation of man”—some purely speculate as much based on the unbiblical gap theory. However, he is implying that 1) Satan is an Angel and 2) that he did fall before the creation of man. 1) He is not an Angel but is a Cherub (Ezekiel 28:14, 16) and his fall is recorded in Genesis 3 along with the manner in which he was cursed as a result. Pett will actually go on to note, “the only fall of angels even hinted at in Scripture prior to the Flood, apart from that of Satan himself as hinted at in Genesis 3, is that found in Genesis 6:1-2.”
As to not having been given any “indication of date…of when the angels fell” Genesis 6 seems to be the only fit (and seems to be that at which 2 Peter 2 is pointing due to its reference to Noah/the flood). This is what Pett concludes based on the apocryphal Book of Enoch (about which I have written much).
Peter Pett further comments:
It will be noted that if we compare these words with Peter we have the ‘spirits in prison’ (1 Peter 3:19), the ‘committing to pits of darkness to be reserved to judgment’ (2 Peter 2:5) and ‘the new earth in which dwells righteousness’ (2 Peter 3:13), and in comparison with Jude here we have ‘the angels who left their first principality’ (they ‘left the high heaven, the eternal holy place’) and their resulting ‘everlasting bonds’ (Jude 1:6), and the fact that they dwelt in darkness. Furthermore in 1 Enoch 60:8 we have mention of ‘the seventh from Adam’ (Jude 1:14).
The same incidents are described more briefly in Jubilees 4:15; 5:1ff.; Testament of Reuben 5:6-7; Testament of Naphtali 3:5; 2 Enoch 18; etc.
This is confirmed in 2 Peter. There Peter selects three incidents in Scriptural order, the fall of the angels, the Flood and Sodom and Gomorrah. But the only fall of angels even hinted at in Scripture prior to the Flood, apart from that of Satan himself as hinted at in Genesis 3, is that found in Genesis 6:1-2.
I would add that both Jude and 2 Peter 2 reference the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah which was sexual in nature.
As for the citations to other apocryphal texts, see the following:
For Jubilees see here.
For Testament of Reuben and of Naphtali see here.
For 2 Enoch see here.

Wednesday, 7 September 2016

WILL THE REAL "NEPHILIM" CALLED ANDREW KELLY PLEASE STAND UP!! OR SHOULD I SAY WILL THE REAL "NEPHILIM" CALLED ANDREW CHISHOLM PLEASE STAND UP AND REVEAL YOURSELF!!

The Plot Thickens Dear Friends!!

I start this new article with what seems to be some "informed" comments from someone ITK, but unfortunately he is someone who wants to remain anonymous. Nevertheless, they make for some very interesting reading, and I post them here for your perusal:

"I believe you must be mistaken in some way about who Kelly is and is not. Also you seem to have a source that is misleading you in some way. 

Firstly Kelly is from an Irish family in Galloway. He was born in Ireland and so he is legally Irish. I sent you a link to David Pritchard earlier. Is it really possible that you do not know what is going on here?

Pritchard is a Silk Councillor which is just shy of a QC. There is a conference in Brisbane at the moment and I think that Pritchard is attending that as a Commercial Barrister at Law. Kelly is in Bulgaria and is staying in the banking district. The internet cafe which someone mentioned above is in that sector of the city. Kelly is very wealthy. 

He has property in Wellington New Zealand where Pritchard lives, also in Scotland, Ireland, North of England and owns the old Manor House in Cornwall formerly Trethegar Manor. It is sometimes called Bosvenna because it is just outside of Bodmin. The details you have listed here are not accurate. That is a nice but modest house in Bodmin itself. It sold recently under a Public Interest Declaration.
Bosvenna House in Bodmin Cornwall.
Kelly is pretty much unheard of or seen anywhere in Cornwall ever. His family has lived there for decades. His brother has a disabled son and I am sure that Kelly spends a lot of time with him at their house in the North of England. 

In any case you appear to be somewhat mislead in all of this. You need to do some research and check your facts before you over step the mark. 
I just wanted to add one more thing here. I am not 100 percent certain but I believe that Kelly is a Satanist on some high rank. I know he can weave an incredible subterfuge and he has the backing of his family. All the wealth in the family is his but he moves it around between members of his family. Richard Kelly is the nice guy in the family. Other members are in various positions in the Armed forces (or were). Kelly used to own a farmhouse in rural Lincolnshire which had a tunnel to the old church on the land. It was about six hundred meters long. That is where he used to have his occult order based (So I believe). I realise that this is somewhat bizarre but I can assure you it is true. Although he uses the name Andrew M R Kelly he is actually called Andrew Chisholm in his dealings with most people outside his family. That was his mothers manorial name from Scotland. 

His brother Richard is essentially a decent guy and a committed christian. He does what is required of him and effectively serves as a cover for his older brother. There are four other brothers and three sisters. I am not a christian myself but I was once a freemason. It was whilst searching to see if anything had appeared online that I found an old reference to Ordo Equitem Auroram on an archived page linked to this site. 

I thought I must have been imagining it. Kelly is about to retire and move to New Zealand and I am pretty certain that this is why he is in Bulgaria closing his accounts in Eastern Europe for that move. I was trying to see if anything had appeared in the public domain indicating that OEM was trying to attract a new Ipsimus for the Order. It is traditional to offer that position outside the order itself. 

Kelly is playing with you but in the process innocent people will get hurt. Your use of private material such as Richard's son's image was really out of order. You have no idea who these people are or why they would be interested in your activities. I can only assume that it has something to do with others and not you directly. 

When they have accomplished their ambitions they will just disappear without trace and you will be left with egg on your face. The Manor House in Cornwall has been vacated already and the large property in Lincolnshire has been given to a political group. IDD (pictured below) will simply disappear and all the websites now directed at you and others (and there are over 45 of them that I have found) will vanish. Kelly owns the server in Switzerland where they are hosted he can take them all down at the flick of a switch. Posting images of Richard is wrong. Kelly is virtually a twin of Richard although there is five years between them. It isn't fair. 

THE HEADQUARTERS OF IDD IN LINCOLNSHIRE.
Think that this is Richard’s time to get free from his brother. They are a lovely family and until now they were dependant on Kelly for their keep. Now it would appear that they are to be let go off with some kind of settlement. Do the right thing and get in touch with Richard and come to an agreement on a way to move forward then write your blog with some facts. 

By the way. The person in your side bar is not Andrew M R Kelly. It is his brother Richard James Kelly 

Best Wishes

Anon".

WELL, WELL, WELL!! WHAT DO MAKE OF THAT OF THAT?? AS I SAID THE PLOT VERY MUCH THICKENS!!

So Ichabod is THE BIGGEST LIAR AROUND, as I have been telling you all for ages now!!

And here is a picture of his new barrister friend, David Pritchard: 

However, as I said yesterday in one of my threads on this on-going debate, there is ONLY ONE REAL David Pritchard. He is a lovely genuine born again Christian Pastor and Preacher. If you need solid friendship, fellowship, ministry, or counselling, this is the man to go to. This man of God even supports John Whittle and even has his photo on his Facebook page, and that really does get up Ichabod's nose: Here is the picture of the REAL Dave Pritchard: 
SO WHO IS THE REAL ANDREW KELLY? IS IT THIS MAN:
OR IS IT THIS MAN:
OR COULD IT BE THIS FREAK: 
WILL THE REAL ANDREW KELLY PLEASE STAND UP! OR MAYBE I SHOULD SAY, WILL THE REAL ANDREW CHISHOLM STAND UP AND REVEAL YOURSELF!!

TIME TO MAKE YOUR MINDS UP FRIENDS! OR IS IT? THE PLOT THICKENS! I DARESAY THERE WILL BE MUCH MORE TO FOLLOW ON THIS "SOAP" OF A STORY AS ONE TWIST FOLLOWS ANOTHER! SOME MIGHT EVEN SAY IT IS BETTER THAN AN AGATHA CHRISTIE SENSATIONAL SAGA OF A STORY!!

MARANATHA BLESSINGS, NEV.

PS. JUST A LITTLE WARNING TO THE FAT LADY. JUST BE VERY CAREFUL NOW, FOR THIS IS THE SORT OF BLOKE YOU HAVE NOW SIDED WITH (NEV)!